For some days there has been a dispute between Poland and Israel. The Polish government intends to pass a law criminalizing the term “Polish concentration camps”, used for instance by Obama, and all suggestions that Poles were involved in Nazi crimes. Israel opposes this in the name of free speech. Israel wants free speech of the holocaust. This sounds like a comedy.
Currently in many European countries there are laws against holocaust denial. Both Poland and Israel have such laws. What do those laws actually forbid?
Some alien stuff.
I looked it up from the Wikipedia, which is often so excellent, though not in all topics and this topic is on the border. The article seemed fine, better than I expected.
The article starts by explaining that it is illegal to say that Nazis did not systematically kill 6 million Jews. That seems clear enough: you must not claim that the number was not 6 and that killing was not systematic. It is not said in Wikipedia, but systematic for sure implies that there were gas chambers and gas vans.
Well, I made my own calculations already many years ago. I spent some time on it, but did not get the correct figure 6. Assuming that the population data for 1939 is correct and there were 9 million Jews in Europe, I get 4.5 million as the number of dead, while assuming that 1-1.5 million had escaped from East Europe via a third country to the USA before 1939, which I find possible based on the growth of the US Jewish population but not exactly proven, the figure is somewhat smaller, 3-3.5 million. It is still millions. Huge.
Why did I make these dangerous calculations when I already knew people had been put to jail for holocaust denial? I really could not believe that any European legal court would criminalize simple arithmetic calculations, and besides, I do not insist. If you want to say it is 6 then it is 6, just the math does not match. You want to say 6=4.5, fine.
I learned the number 6 million in the school and believed it like children do. When I heard in the 1990ies that some crazies claimed that it was not so, my first reaction was that this must be nonsense. Media told that these people were Neo-Nazis and history forgers, so I thought that it must be so. Only much later, after I had read and thought enough of 911 and been convinced that the towers did not fall as is officially told, I looked at the holocaust story and made these calculations. I decided to do them myself from scratch so that there would be neither Neo-Nazi nor Zionist cheating and the result is as it is. So, was it a criminal act? Refute the calculation if you can, stop repeating the nonsense of hate talk.
From the Wikipedia article I did not understand what these laws precisely forbid in each country. It seems to be different in different countries. The text of the Israel law was the most understandable. The Wikipedia article includes the following text:
“Prohibition of Denial of Holocaust 2. A person who, in writing or by word of mouth, publishes any statement denying or diminishing the proportions of acts committed in the period of the Nazi regime, which are crimes against the Jewish people or crimes against humanity, with intent to defend the perpetrators of those acts or to express sympathy or identification with them, shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of five years.”
That is clear and simple. It is criminal in Israel to diminish the proportions of any act in the period of the Nazi regime. In the Nuremberg trials Nazis were condemned of several crimes including making lamp shades out of human skin and soap out of human fat, that is, of Jews. I was told both as facts in the school. Nowadays they are not facts anymore. They were war time propaganda. I guess it is illegal to deny these acts of Nazis in Israel, but maybe not. There is the part “with intention to defend…” I do not intend to defend. I condemn those who were behind the holocaust. Nazis did it, but there were more people planning it, and they were Zionists of a special kind. I leave their ethnicity open.
So, Israel is now accusing Poland of wanting to pass a law that prevents free talk of the holocaust when all these holocaust denial laws were made because Jews wanted them.
Basically Jews just want to accuse Poles of collaboration with Nazis. I have read many stories by Jews telling how badly they were treated in Poland by Poles. I find these stories quite one-sided and motivated by very clear Jewish hatred of Gentiles. No doubt there were Poles, who collaborated with Nazis, but also Zionists were collaborating with Nazis and in my opinion much more. Zionists made the Ha’avara agreement with Hitler, but it is not only that.
My investigations into this issue point out to something much worse. I think that Zionists planned the holocaust as a way to get the Jews to Palestine in order to create the state of Israel, but these Zionists are not the Zionist organization founded by Herzl. There were pre-Zionists before them and there were Christian Zionists, cabbalistic Zionists and occult Zionists. The persecutors of Jews were Nazis, but I have found a historical connection between Nazis and pre-Zionists, the occult ones and the rich ones. If this is so, and for freedom of research one should be able to study if it was so, the real reason for holocaust denial laws is that this connection, found by many others before me, should not be established as a truth by mainstream historians.
The background of the new Polish law forbidding the expression “Polish concentration camps” is that PIS, the governing party, has to some extent supported Polish nationalistic groups, the same groups which in Western countries are called extreme rightists, racists and neo-Nazis. A doll, looking like a traditional Jewish character, was burned by one of these groups. A small group of Neo-Nazis had a gathering in a forest and they adored a burning swastika with Hitler greetings. The PIS government condemned these acts and the perpetrators are punished. Nevertheless, it is puzzling. What is PIS trying to do?
I thought about it and came up with this idea that the Polish government wants to show how silly it is to pass laws denying the right to study any historical event and to get whatever results the research gives. Insist on keeping the holocaust denial laws and any government feels free to incriminate any random phrases connected with the holocaust and accusation of its own citizens. That should wake up people that those laws are not correct.
You can study any historical event except for the holocaust, and get whatever results. It you get obviously wrong results or try to falsify history, the normal scientific way is that you can try to publish your results, but nobody will agree with them and your results will be ignored or declared incorrect. There is no need to put anybody into a jail because of research.
How is it if some group is spreading propaganda? Should they not be stopped? That is censorship. The party, which actually can do successful propaganda, must control the media to a large extent. Neo-Nazi hate groups do not have control of the media, but I do not fully discard all censorship. There is a good reason to limit the right for agitation of masses or individuals to violent and illegal acts, but such laws should be formulated in a more general way, not only for one historical event like the holocaust and they must not be used to decide how many millions died in some historical event.
Another issue came up in this Poland-Israel debate. The Congress of the USA wishes that Poland does not pass the law. It looks like Americans do whatever Israel asks. It already looked like it when Trump declared Jerusalem the capital of Israel. Actually Israel chose Jerusalem as the capital in 1950 and Knesset and Israel government are in Jerusalem. It is a bit strange that foreign embassies are in Tel Aviv, but there are political reasons. Trump’s move was interpreted as the USA doing everything Israel wants. This includes fighting Israel’s wars, as Philip Grimaldi of The Unz Review has written.
I have been reading The Unz Review for some time. It is supposed to be alt-right and Donald Trump was supposed to be supported by alt-right. Alt-right is in a way similar to PIS in Poland. Alt-right is supposed to be anti-Semitic. Naturally Ron Unz of The Unz Review is Jewish and about half of the alt-right sites to which The Unz Review links at the end of the front page are run by other Jews. So, are Jews nowadays anti-Semites or is alt-right not anti-Semitic? I certainly have read some anti-Semitic articles and reader comments in the Unz’s site. And then, Donald Trump says he is the greatest philo-Semite there is. This is all very confusing.
I watched these two youtube videos (Donald Trump, 9/11, Case closed 1 and 2, a reader comment of the Unz’s site recommended them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl294zrYLzk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d47oH8PS_QY
Again I did not understand everything in the videos. In the part 2, does Trump mean “you knew I was a (((snake)))”, or is Trump the snake of his benefactors after the near bankruptcy, or is the snake an immigrant from a Trump’s “shithole” country? I did notice an error in the videos: Lara Trump finally was not Jewish, though possibly (?(they)?) wanted to give this impression. Most of the stuff in the video I had heard from elsewhere from sources that seem rather reliable, so the closed case is rather solid but unintelligible.
What does it mean?
Israel has a problem with Palestinians. The birthrate of Palestinians is slightly higher than that of Jews. Jews do not want the two states solution. In a one state solution Palestinians will be the majority and Israel not a Jewish state in some 30 years or so, unless more Jews move to Israel. The only place where there are enough Jews who could move is the USA, but without external pressure American Jews will not move anywhere. Israel has also a problem with Islamic countries. So far Israel is the only country in the area with nuclear weapons, but it will not stay like that forever, unless the USA attacks all Israel’s enemies. If Arab countries are destabilized by internal Islamic forces, such as the Islamic State, the current situation may remain longer. Alternatively, in such a situation Israel may annex more occupied areas or create vassal states forming the Greater Israel of God’s promise to Abraham. A larger area would require a larger Jewish population. There is still a third problem, water. The whole area is drying and controlling water sources becomes more important. The way of filtering drinking water from the sea seemed like a solution, but in the long run it may not suffice.
What would the same best friend of Israel, who invented the holocaust for creating the Jewish state, do in this tricky situation? It has to be something totally immoral.
An attack like 911 takes a long preparation. It is not done without considering the possibility that a false flag attack is finally unmasked. This has almost always been the case in history. Sooner or later it is not possible to hide the truth. This must have been clear to the planners of 911 from the beginning. But it is also true that for some time the truth can be hidden. False flag attacks are typically used to start a war. For some time the truth is not known. A propaganda effort is successful. The attack is approved as a justified countermeasure. Then you win and the goals are achieved. Later the truth comes up, but it does not change anything anymore.
Let’s apply this natural logic to 911. The USA is attacked by Arab terrorists, so the president starts a war on terror and attacks Iraq and Afghanistan, the latter may be collateral damage or good for restoring the opium trade. Iraq is destroyed and then the truth comes up. What happens next? Americans just forget and say that it was anyway good to kill Saddam Hussein and help Israel, which had to do what it had to do? Probably not so, since Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction and it was not a threat to Americans, while many died in 911. They could get angry, especially if one were to encourage it by suitable propaganda. Then American Jews would have to make a choice: no dual loyalties. Those, who would remain loyal to the tradition, would have to escape and where might they go? Before the truth would come out, they should make a place for the Jews to go, lebensraum. It is best achieved by destabilizing the neighbors and then dividing the area into countries in a better way.
Fortunately nobody would come up with a so immoral idea. I have studied too many conspiracy theories and watched too many American movies. In the real world everybody is really nice and wants only peace. Good that it is not as I feared. These guys are just stupid. They did 911 and did not for a minute think somebody would figure it out. They did not plan what would happen if it comes out.
But the alt-right, what is it? The new right, or alt-right, is not a movement coming from the people. Maybe it was at the beginning but it is infiltrated, or maybe it was created to be a tool. Anyway it is now used as a tool. How could it be otherwise? They caught an Israeli Mossad agent in Libya. He was leading a group of hundreds of al Qaeda fighters. The official version is that he was an infiltrator to al Qaeda. The alternative is that al Qaeda always was a front organization for some intelligence, not to name which.
The video repeated the Internet meme ISIS=Israel State Intelligence Service. It was so strange to me that a group of terrorists gathered from many countries and with light weapons only could occupy a large area of land against professional armies for a long time. And then ISIS lost to the Syrian forces with Hezbollah and a Russian air unit. I looked up the news and indeed ISIS fighters were treated in Israel hospitals and Syrians found US made and NATO weapons and Israel equipment from ISIS storages. ISIS may be used as a tool (and if so it is infiltrated) or was created as a tool. The same may be true for all al Qaeda.
I found a small bit of information that al Qaeda may have been a tool.
It is that Osama Bin Laden told his mother in September 9, 2001, that in two days will happen something big and he has to stay away from sight. There is nothing concrete linking Bin Laden to 911, so let us assume he did not do it. How did he know that something was going to happen in two days and he should stay hidden? Maybe he got a hint.
Who knew of 911?
There is a CIA report from August 6, 2001 saying that Bin Laden is determined to attack the USA. This seems to be after CIA got intelligence from Israel. This is fairly late. CNN knew it earlier. CNN news from June 24, 2001 said that Osama bin Laden had vowed to attack U.S. and Israeli interests in the next two weeks. Alex Jones commented this news on July 25, 2001 saying that there would be a terror attack on U.S. soil and someone “like Bin Laden” would be blamed. William Cooper commented the news in June 28, 2001 saying that Illuminati would do the attack and Osama bin Laden would be blamed. So neither conspiracy theoretician knew anything more than CNN.
So I looked up what Osama Bin Laden had said before June 24, 2001. There is a tape from Bin Laden in June 20, 2001. It is a poem related to the attack on USS Cole. There is also one from June 19, 2001 where Bin Laden is in Afghanistan squeezing the trigger of AK-47. They do not threaten the USA with an imminent attack. I wonder where the CNN got the information from.
There were those who knew. In the video it is told that Donald Trump predicted in his book from 2000 that Osama Bin Laden would make an attack on the USA. Trump’s friend Larry Silverstein knew more. He made a bid of the lease of WTC for 99 years in January 2001 and signed the lease agreement July 24, 2001 and somewhere he changed the insurance covering a terror attack. The Israelis who come at 8 AM to video the plane hit knew. Probably also those Israelis, who intended to bomb the bridge, knew something. Somebody who knew hinted to Bin Laden that he should stay hidden. If so, there was a link to al Qaeda.
We cannot do anything since the USA is supporting Israel, or is it so?
Why is the USA supporting Israel? There are the Christian Zionists, who yet do not understand that Jews will never convert to Christianity and that there never was any common Jewish-Christian culture. There are realists, who do not want Israel to use its nuclear weapons and offer US protection against enemies to Israel for that exact reason. Finally, there are those, who have financial supporters and a career and who do not want to spoil it all. The Israel lobby can influence the last group. Media can to some extent influence the first group. It should not really be possible to influence the second group and the strategic situation changes over time. Let’s just wait still some time.